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General Discussion / Re: current posts
« on: May 15, 2025, 04:56:07 pm »
While this post is right in a way - the culture of the UK and the West generally is non-Christian - it is no use trying to change the culture to make it more Christian, or to impose Christian values on a non-Christian society.  The first Christians didn't go out to Christianize Roman society, they preached the Gospel and made converts.  When God blesses that preaching, the nation will change, and not before.
Before the Great Awakening of the 18th Century under Wesley and Whitefield, Britain was in the most terrible condition.  The William Hogarth prints, 'Gin Lane,' 'The Rake's Progress' and 'The Harlot's Progress' show what life was like at that time.  But Wesley and Whitefield didn't start by trying to change society any more than Paul did.  They preached the Gospel, and as a result of an increasing number of Christians, society changed.

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General Discussion / Re: Joe Boot on x
« on: May 08, 2025, 03:36:54 pm »
Joseph Boot
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Patriotic Britains thank J D Vance and Trump administration for putting pressure on the UK government on freedom of speech & conscience which have been eroding here for over a decade.

Joseph Boot
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Brilliant article from Suella on the importance of British identity & the meaning of being English. She correctly makes nuanced distinction between national identity, citizenship & ethnic heritage re: the need for honest evaluation of today’s crisis.
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Joseph Boot
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What's at the religious root of the problems of the West?

"Look well what thou art doing when thou goest into God's house; present thyself there in a spirit of obedience. Obedience is far better than the sacrifice made by fools, that are guilty of unwitting sacrilege" (Ecclesiastes 4:17)

The church must address its apostasy from the Word of God in numerous areas. Let's start by putting faithful men into the pulpit and eldership of the church who will teachttps://fiec.org.uk/resources/the-quiet-revival-growth-in-the-uk-churchh the Word of God in faithfulness and apply it to all of life.
I think Mr Boot is being too pessimistic.  While many of the larger denominations are collapsing, Bible-believing churches are growing rapidly, including my own.
Have a read of this: https://fiec.org.uk/resources/the-quiet-revival-growth-in-the-uk-church 

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General Discussion / Re: What recently happened....
« on: October 02, 2024, 09:19:03 am »
You don't say what it was that he did, but a wise old Puritan (I forget which one!) said that a fallen minister should not return to his post until his repentance became as well-know as the offense.

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New Board / Re: What is the gospel?
« on: September 21, 2024, 12:19:45 pm »
No one has preached the Gospel unless he has urged his listeners to repent and believe (Mark 1:15).  'And with many other words [Peter] testified and exhorted them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation"' (Acts 2:40; cf. also 2 Timothy 4:1-2).
A mere recital of facts may serve at a lecture in a theological seminary where everyone is presumed to be saved, but it is not the Gospel.

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New Board / Re: The General Call
« on: September 17, 2024, 09:54:05 am »
Further to my last post, the Articles of the Synod of Dort (1619) say:

As many as are called by the gospel are unfeignedly calle;  for God hath most earnestly and truly declared in His word what will be acceptable to Him, namely, that all who are called should comply with the invitation.  He, moreover, seriously promises eternal life and rest to as many as shall come to Him and believe on Him.  It is not the fault of the gospel, nor of Christ offered therein, nor of God who calls men by the gospel, and confers upon them various gifgts, that those who are called by the ministry of the Word refuse to come and be converted.  The fault lies in themselves.
[Taken from Philip Schaff, A History of the Creeds of Christendom, vol.1, 1878]

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New Board / Re: Posts Against the Teaching of Election
« on: August 31, 2024, 06:32:18 pm »
It is natural for someone to suppose that he has believed of his own free will, and in a way that is true.  But the fact is that God the Holy Spirit has opened his heart to believe.  Without such a work on the heart, men simply will not accept the Gospel (1 Corinthians 2:14).
I think human pride may also come into it.  The idea that I have nothing to do to earn my salvation is a very humbling one.  The human mind is more amenable to the attitude of the Pharisee than that of the tax collector.

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New Board / Re: The General Call
« on: August 29, 2024, 05:48:40 pm »
I think it is not possible to deny a general call.
Consider Mark 1:15 where the Lord Jesus says, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand.  Repent and believe the gospel."  To whom is He speaking?  To anyone and everyone within earshot.  There is no indication that His words were not public.  We are told in the previous verse that, "He went forth preaching."  Preaching is a public activity.
To whom are the words directed today?  To whoever will pick up a Bible and read.  The word "Gospel" simply means "Good news."  It is good news to everyone who will hear and believe.  "The one who comes to Me," says Jesus, "I will by no means cast out" (John 6:37).  Whoever will come will be saved.

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General Discussion / Re: Doc Sandlin on X
« on: August 20, 2024, 09:29:55 am »


More and more baptists are treating their children as covenant offspring and training them up according to God‘s covenant promises with the assumption that they belong to Him.
I cannot see this as anything remotely positive, though I'm aware of it happening.
The great problem of paedobaptism, it seems to me, is Presumptive Regeneration.  Parents assume that their children are regenerate, not because they see any signs of it, but because their infants have been splashed with water.  They therefore do not tell the little ones to repent and trust in Jesus, but to live like Christians and do good deeds.  The result of this is that such children grow up, get confirmed, go to college and even end up in Christian ministry without ever having been born anew.  At some point their unregenerate nature will lead them into sin as we see all too often in Church circles.
Joel Beeke has said that he would rather be a Baptist than believe in Presumptive Regeneration.
However, Baptists are sometimes as bad as Presbyterians.  They can't wait to get the children to mouth some words that might be taken as an expression of faith and then get them dunked in the mistaken impression that the water will save them.
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Paedobaptists, on the other hand, recognize the baptist-emphasized truth of intentional, voluntary discipleship, and convey to their covenant children the need for personal appropriation of the Faith, and not the assumption that he or she will simply carry on their inherited Faith.
I sincerely hope this is true.

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General Discussion / Re: What is A Reformed Baptist
« on: August 13, 2024, 06:24:04 pm »
Those are two excellent articles.  Perhaps I may add just a little further information.
The term, "Reformed Baptist" is of very recent origin.  So far as I can discover, it was coined in the mid 1960s by the Welshman Geoff Thomas and American Walter Chantry, when the pair were studying at Westminster Seminary and came into a degree of confrontation from their fellow-students because of their baptistic stance.  To the Reformed Presbyterian, infant baptism is a sine qua non of Reformed theology.  I discovered this in the 1990s when, having come to a Reformed understanding, I applied to join the British Reformed Fellowship (now defunct) and was rejected because I was (and still am) a Baptist.

In fact, I would say, Baptists are the true reformers, having rid themselves of the last vestige of Roman Catholicism, infant baptism.

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General Discussion / Re: Joe Boot on x
« on: August 13, 2024, 05:16:51 pm »
The violent protests on British streets were indeed appalling; they were also foolish and misjudged.
They have managed to do what I would have thought impossible; they have made Keir Starmer appear dynamic and forthright.  And now, yes, anyone who speaks out against illegal immigration can be smeared with the accusation of being 'far right.'  But the fault for that lies with the idiots who started the violence.
The larger percentage of immigrants to Britain are not illegal, but legal.  They have been invited to come and work in our care homes and hospitals.  The reason for this is that the UK population is rapidly ageing and there are not enough younger people to do these menial jobs.  Why?  Because we have killed off more than 10 million unborn children by abortion and our birthrate (in common with many other countries) is far too low.  So we have suddenly got hundreds of people from the Commonwealth, mostly African, arriving in our cities.
But in my experience, these Africans are lovely people; they have come to work hard for low wages and many of them are Christian and have given new life to many of our churches.  In my own church, we have people from Ghana, Uganda and Zimbabwe and the church is the richer for them
The problem is with those who come across the Channel in boats or smuggle themselves in on lorries.  We have no idea who these people are because they jettison their passports and other documentation before they arrive.  But how to stop them is a problem that defeated the last government and the current lot seem to have no clue.
But the last thing we need is to attempt to impose the Jewish judicial law on an unbelieving people.  It failed in 1662 and it won't work now.  What we need is to preach the Gospel, and while the liberal churches in Britain are falling off a cliff, many independent, Bible-believing churches are seeing rapid growth, including my own which has tripled in size since Lockdown.  The Gospel is God's way of salvation, and we may be sure that nothing else will work

According to Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, the main reason for Rome's demise was a declining birthrate. Abortion is a sign of a degenerate, atheistic society. Let the West beware!

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General Discussion / Re: Phil Johnson on X
« on: July 24, 2024, 06:52:54 pm »
In Britain too, alas.

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General Discussion / Re: Joe Boot on x
« on: July 24, 2024, 06:51:09 pm »
Joseph Boot
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When rapists get sentenced to the “hospital” rather than to death, as scripture requires, as was true for most of modern British history, this is the result. We need a restoration of biblical law.
No. The seduction of an unmarried woman bore the obligation of marriage if that is what she and her family wanted, genuine **** of any woman carried the death penalty.Judges 19-21; Gen 34 deal with community vengeance against ****. The case law doesn't deal with every variation of ****. Deuteronomy 22 deals with two distinct cases which are worth studying in terms of the uses of the Hebrew terms. The preponderance of evidence is that violent force of a woman warrants the death penalty...period...that is the general equity of the law. In the case I cited, the threat of death with knives against the women was also involved. This alone, in the case of this man who is a serial offender, requires the death penalty (Deut. 21:18-21)

Tax on your income, property, savings, goods, fuel, capital gains, inheritance and now even the state pension you paid for in “national insurance.” When you make the state your saviour in socialism it will rob you & your children from cradle to grave.
Dr. Boot is clearly not a follower of the WCF or 2LCF.  2LCF 19:4.  To them (the Israelites){God] gave sundry judicial laws, which expired together with the state of that people, not obliging any now by virtue of that institution, their general equity only being of modern use   John 8:1-11 and Hebrews 8:13 seem to me to say that the Old Covenant judicial laws have expired.  We are to be no longer stoning adulterers to death, but preaching Christ to them and telling them. "Go and sin no more."

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New Board / Re: Baptism
« on: July 24, 2024, 02:37:08 pm »
That is true, but there is no indication in the Bible of young children being baptized.
Acts 8:12.  'But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.'  Nothing prevented children being mentioned if they had, in fact, been baptized.  I realize that Scripture mentions 'household' baptisms, but that does not necessarily mean young children.
1 Cor. 1:16. 'Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanos...'  Did that baptism include young children?  It seems not.  1 Cor. 16:15.  '... You know the household of Stephanos, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints...'  Young children are unlikely to devote themselves to the ministry.

My concern about young children being baptized is that they may be trying to please Mommy and Daddy rather than making trusting in Christ for themselves, but I suppose that every case is different, and some children mature faster than others.  We have one lady in our church who was baptized at the age of 8, and is still going on with the Lord at 94 years old!

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New Board / Re: Amillenial
« on: July 07, 2024, 09:47:32 am »
That is very interesting.
When you have time, I will be interested to hear what your pastor's arguments were.

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New Board / Re: Baptism
« on: July 05, 2024, 01:14:31 pm »
Yes, that is also true, alas.
Here in the UK we see it in the Baptist Union churches (the association that Spurgeon left 140 years ago).  Obviously there will always be mistakes made (eg. Acts 8:9ff), but I believe that pastors who knowingly baptize unsaved people are guilty of a terrible sin - sending people to hell with a pocketful of false promises.

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